300 remington ultra mag vs 338 lapua

The Accurate Mag Remington SSSF Long Action Bottom metal kit comes in 3.715″, 3.775″ & 3.850″ magazine lengths for 300Winchester Magnum, 338Lapua Magnum, 300 Remington Ultra Magnum … Also, the 300 RUM rifles are typically part of the standard set for most manufacturers while most 338 Lapua have a $3000+ price tag. If we use that 1000 ft-lbs of energy as our benchmark, a lowly 30-30 will still kill that deer dead out to 200 yards with most bullets. They’ll die with way less than that, and a heavier bullet will still over-penetrate, but a slow non-expanding bullets through the lungs is not going to mess them up like I’d want to and that might mean tracking a wounded deer into the bush. The comparison between a .300 Win Mag vs .30-06 cartridge involves considering the following factors – 1. The longest confirmed sniper kill at over 2400yards was done with a 338 lapua. Re: 300 Remington Ultra Mag in AICS 338 Lapua Magazine You'll have to as the same problem exists with using 338 RUM in the 338 Lapua mags. 300 Winchester Magnum. Ballistically they are quite similar. Such emails will be ignored. I can hit 2 moa at 1000 yds with it. 300 Norma. That’s approaching safari rounds. 338 Lapua Magnum is only offered in select (expensive) rifles, $90 for a box of 20 rounds is normal, and NO ONE in your hunting party is going to have it. You can get it in almost any long action rifle, you can buy a box of ammo at the local store, and you might even have a buddy that fires the same thing. Design It is a beltless, rebated rim cartridge based on the.300 Remington Ultra Magnum case shortened.090" and necked-up to accept a 0.338-inch (.338 caliber) bullet. The 300 Winchester Magnum is in a class way above the 30-30, and with a 180 grn pill, will provide over 1000 ft-lbs of energy just up to 900 yards. Ultra Mag or .338 RUM. At that time, 30-caliber bullets were inserted onto the cartridges. 1. Mag., 350 Rem. 2. Say hello to the 300 Remington Ultra Magnum. There are other .338 cartridges, one of the best being the .338-06, but no major factory has yet adopted that cartridge, despite many rumors. Mag. That’s approaching safari rounds. Mag., leaving the all-American 30-calibers to Winchester, Weatherby, H&H, Norma and even Dakota. With a more accurate rifle and a knowledgeable  experienced shooter, even 1600 yards is doable. 7 mm Remington Ultra Magnum. 2020 The Hunting Gear Guy, Savage 111 Long Range Hunter 338 Lapua Review, Mossberg 510 Super Bantam 20 Gauge Review. If you still feel you are qualified to post in those subforums, please contact "Shane Tuttle" (the mod for that portion of TFL) via Private Message for assistance. The two cartridges have a similar trajectory at normal hunting ranges, but typical 338 Lapua loads have 30-40% more muzzle energy. The superior ballistics of the 338 only come into play past 1000 yards, something few people have ranges for. Commercial ammo for the .338 Lapua Mag is about six bucks a round. I can knock it down to about 3-4 bucks a round rolling my own. 1. Thecase is a rimless bottleneck with a large rifle magnum primer. 1. This email link is to reach site administrators for assistance, if you cannot access TFL via other means. In fact, your loud muzzle brake is going to keep most of your hunting buddies miles away. 300 Savage. With 250 grain bullets, it’ll hit 1300 yards before crossing the 1000 ft-lb mark and with heavy 300 grain bullets, it’s good to 1600 yards. Sure the 338 is just a tiny bit wider and the bullet is just a tiny bit bigger, but does that really make a lot of difference?” If you were to ask a deer shot at typical distances of 100-200 meters, the answer would be a definitive NO. 300 SAUM (Remington SA Ultra Mag) 1. Remington .338 RUM factory ammo starts at about $4 per cartridge. 2. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .338 Lapua Magnum vs 7mm-08 Remington ammo rounds. On the brass front, oh boy, you’re going to pay. I just thought it’d be fun to compare and contrast the two of them. I already have a custom 6.5 CM and a Custom 22 BR. 7 mm STW. Even if you reload the 338 Lapua is more expensive than the 300 RUM, brass goes for $2.50 for the Lapua, $1 for the RUM. If you are a TFL member and can access TFL, please do not use this link; instead, use the forums (like Questions, Suggestions, and Tech Support) or PM an appropriate mod or admin. The shot by Canadian, Rob Furlong, was 2,430 meters, using a McMillan TAC-50 rifle, loaded with I believe a 750 gr AMAX bullet, although I am not sure on that point except that a match load using the AMAX bullet was available to Canadian snipers at the time. The author analyzed six .338 caliber magnum cartridges (.338 Winchester Magnum, .340 Weatherby, .338-378 Weatherby, .338 Remington Ultra Mag., 33 Nosler, and .338 Lapua) for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. With 300 Winchester Magnum, you’re playing with much cheaper brass, but the belt can be a bit annoying when reloading. Adriel has been hunting all his life, enjoys shooting 3 gun, is a trainer for Project Mapleseed and tries to apply a practical point of views to his reviews. Efficiency appears to be a hallmark of the .33 Nosler, as it is said to beat the velocity of the .338 Lapua Magnum while burning 18 percent less powder. With reloading, you can keep costs to much reasonable levels. 300 AAC Blackout. BTW that 2,400 meter shot taken with the 338 Lapua only has enough dope on the S&B PMII scope to get out to 1800m of drop with the standard Brit sniping load. Remington launched this beast in 1999, it's first 30-caliber. I believe the 338 Lapua was originally optimized for 250 gr +/- bullets. 1. The generally available calibers are the .338 Winchester Magnum, the .340 Weatherby, and the new Remington .338 Ultra Mag. 300 Remington Ultra Magnum. 7 mm Remington Magnum. 338-378 Wby is only .579,300RUM is. I agree with Fosgate5 on the 338 Lapua (tactical/sniper rifle) think it's got the one of biggest bolt face @ .558. Muzzle energy is usually measured in ft-lbs (even here in Canada), and a typical rule of thumb is that you should be hitting a deer with at least 1000 ft-lbs on impact. The ballistic performances based offfive grain types for velocity are 3,456 ft/s (150 gr), 3,326 ft/s (168 gr), 3,… Technically the 338 Lapua brass cartridge volume is under its capacity to drive the 300 gr bullet up to 2900 fps (more ideal fps) without going over SAAMI pressure specs. Don't need or want to be near the overbore 300 RUM. They’ll both launch a bullet at 2950 fps. Will the higher velocity of the Win mag outperform that of the slower 300 gr .338 bullet? The 338 Lapua has nearly twice as much recoil energy though. Nov 21, 2008 #3 338 federal is the same case as 308 the 338 lapua is a very large case about the same capacity as the 300 rem ultra mag. It is a beltless, rebated rim cartridge based on the .300 Remington Ultra Magnum case shortened .090″ and necked-up to accept a 0.338-inch (.338 caliber) bullet. The .375 Holland & Holland Magnum (an undeniable big-game classic) pushes a 300-grain bullet at … If you reload, the cost of the 338 … This email contact address is not an "Ask the Firearms Expert" service. In 2000 Remington launched the .338 Rem. It’s 2200 ft-lbs at the muzzle isn’t much, but neither is 200 yards when you’re talking about long rang shooting. The 338 Lapua kicks things up a notch. I guess which one you choose depends on what you plan on doing with it._____ treeman . It proved to me that while cartridge is important, the shooter, and also the environment mean more than the projectile. Still fits in the OAL of a 700 based action, but lots of punch. The Contestants. Its 3.340-inch overall length permits its use in standard-length actions. The primary difference between the 338 Win mag and the Lapua is in performance. Brand692's post did an excellent job of illustrating the problem and the solution to this situation. 30 Thompson Center. Mag., 7mm Rem. That’s totally ridiculous. The table shows that the 338 RUM delivers equal velocities with less powder and less recoil up through the 250 Grain bullets. The rifle bargain here is the .338 Remington Ultra Mag. Alternatively, you can run 300 grain bullets in the Lapua for amazing BC’s and better 1000+ yard performance. 300 Winchester magnum and 338 Lapua magnum are both more than capable of taking down any game animal in North America at most any distance you’ll see them at. History Announced in 1999 and released in 2000, the .338 Remington Ultra Magnum is one of the four Remington long action ultra magnum cartridges which include the 7mm, 300, .338 and .375 Ultra Magnum cartridges, all loosely based on the 404 Jefferies case design blown out to maximum dimensions. The difference is that the 300 win mag will do it with a 180 grn bullet, whereas the 338 lapua will do that with a 250 grain bullet. If you want to shoot 338 Lapua, you HAVE to reload to avoid the ridiculous $5/shot that you’ll be paying with factory ammo. The savage 110 that I use has the proper twist rate for the 300 gr sierra, it seems to be accurate- although I'm still testing it. I have a 300 short mag and it is fun. If you just want to hunt anything, look no further than 300 win mag. That’s splitting hairs for on-game performance, but makes a pretty big difference for long range shooting. I think the only real use for a 300RUM is for elk for someone with too much money in my opinion. I wouldn't mind having one just to have it. 338 lapua is a specially designed sniping cartridge used by lots of millitaries all over the world, and 300 RUM is a ridiculous 30cal that was designed for no purpose but to spend lots of money on ammo. And while both these cartridges are being tested by the US Military as a sniping round, I’m just comparing the two for hunting purposes below. 5. Wildcatters offer various other .338s, but none of them are on your dealer s shelves. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/14705-55.html, http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/338-edge-1.php, http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7113916.ece, https://www.venomtactical.com/r_taipan.php. So where does that leave our 338 Lapua and 300 Win Mag? Just as a foreword: this is a totally bunk comparison. Ogre6br. It appears that a no-frills Remington Model 700 rifle can be purchased in this caliber for $800 to $1000 in 2015, the same price as a good quality .338 Win. The 300 Rum (or any of the big 30 cal magnums) pushing a 240 gr VLD is quite a good long range option. No question, the 300 win mag is the more practical round. They’ll both launch a bullet at 2950 fps. For example, a .300 Remington Ultra Magnum firing a 200-grain bullet at 3,100 fps (a very popular combination) generates 4,000 ft.-lbs. Heck, that rule of thumb gets passed at 1200 yards. Mag. Depending on action manufacturer this can really add some bulk and weight to the gun. Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.85" Width: 0.534" Average FPS: 3066 Average Energy: 3610 Average Gr: 173 Recoil: 2.64 Power Rank: 5.3 of 20 The .300 Remington Ultra Magnum was designed in 1999 by Remington Arms Company. Mag., 8mm Rem. 338 Lapua is based off of a 416 Rigby case with the rim diameter of the case at .587". When we look at the cartridge specs for the .300 Win Mag vs .338 Lapua Magnum we see some immediate differences that will likely lead to differences in how these two cartridges perform. and 416 Rem. Better Lapua brass costs $3 per case for 338, BUT you can make it last well into 20 reloads if you’re careful. 300 Win Mag vs 30-06 Cartridge. Longest confirmed sniper kill is 2706 yrds with 338 lapua. If you want the biggest, baddest round in your hunt camp, the 338 lapua is your only option beyond the insane 50 BMG. Just because it can be done does not mean it makes sense, despite what you might read in advertising copy. 30 Nosler. Might take a look at the .338 Edge cartridge as well. That weight makes a big difference in ME with the 300 win mag doing 3500 ft-lbs at the muzzle compared to the 338 lapua’s mighty 4832 ft-lbs. But where that extra powder and weight come in handy is at extreme distances. 2. The 300 Ultra Mag was certainly capable of match accuracy, so the 338 RUM at least seemed promising. 30 Carbine. If you read bullet manufacturers manuals, most of them recommend more than 1000 fpe to reliably expand and do what they’re supposed to on game. The following table shows a 338 RUM versus a 338 Lapua for bullet weights from 210 Grains up through 300 Grains. The question could be: Does a 300 Win mag have a better bullet (better coefficient) than the sierra .338 300 gr (coefficient of 0.768) bullet? If you are experiencing difficulties posting in the Buy/Sell/Trade subforums of TFL, please read the "sticky" announcement threads at the top of the applicable subforum. That weight makes a big difference in ME with the 300 win mag doing 3500 ft-lbs at the muzzle compared to the 338 lapua’s mighty 4832 ft-lbs. It’ll also keep your ears ringing long after the hunt is done (if you forgot hearing protection). Im looking at the Christensen Arms MPR in 338 Lapua or the 300 PRC. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. .338 Remington Ultra Magnum (RUM) 300 Grain Nosler AccuBond- The .338 Remington Ultra Magnum is a .338 caliber rifle cartridge introduced by Remington Arms in 2002. Wind drift and drop are both less critical with that extra speed. It's a good read. So there you have it, the mighty 300 win mag and the mightier, but more ridiculous 338 lapua. With 300 grain bullets, the win mag throws them at ~2300 fps, whil… 2nd longest kill is with 50cal BMG at 2657 yrds. The 300 PRC has been around for awhile now, Id like to know what you think of it at this time compared to the 338 Lapua! Therefore, the only time a 338 RUM would be at a disadvantage over a 338 Lapua is for the 300 Grain bullet. 300 H&H Magnum. rifle. The .338 LM rounds are a larger caliber than the .300 Win Mag and have a … The.338 Remington Ultra Magnum has a similar case capacity as the.338 Lapua Magnum and somewhat lower than that of the.338-378 Weatherby Magnum. I've been watching the development of the Venom Tactical Taipan in .338 Edge with interest. One potential negative of the 300 Norma is the larger bolt face requirement (338 Lapua). Some argue this isn't a "true sniper shot" because his target was a mortar team and he managed to hit one of three men at that range. It was based upon the company's other Ultra Mag cartridges and, as such, used a modified .404 Jeffery case that provided plenty of capacity for driving 250-grain bullets faster than 2,900 fps and generating as much energy at 400 yards as the .30-06 offered at 100. That’s outside the 6″ vitals that you should be able to hit every time to make a clean kill. Find the Hunting Gear guy on YouTube, © Like its stablemates—the .26, .28, and .30 Noslers—the .33 is based on the .300 Remington Ultra Mag case. My understanding is that the balistics are about as good as anything else and better than most. For use with Wyatt's trigger guard assembly, this steel, detachable box magazine accommodates 8 rounds of 338 Lapua Magnum or 9 rounds of 300 Remington Ultra Magnum cartridges. However, that extra length, combined with the fact that the cartridge has a .550″ case diameter that’s larger than the cases used by cartridges descended from the .375 H&H (.513″), means the .300 RUM has a gigantic case capacity. 338 lapua = mimics a max pressure/hot 338 winchester, a very over hyped waste of money. With 250 grain bullets, the Win Mag is pushing 2650, while the Lapua is just short of 3000 fps. 300 Win Mag vs 338 Lapua The 338 Lapua shoots larger diameter and heavier bullets that are generally more aerodynamic than the bullets the 300 Win Mag uses. of energy at the muzzle. The 338 Lapua does best with 250 to 270 gr bullets, although the 300 gr SMK is a serious contender for long range accuracy. +1 for trg42wraglefragle for the lapua being used as a military round. The case isbased off a .404 Jeffery Nitro Express by narrowing down the neck to fit a .308 (7.8mm) bullet. 7 mm WSM (Winchester Short Magnum) 1. 3. This requires a non-standard bolt face / Weatherby bolt face size. For decades Remington was satisfied with its 6.5mm Rem. 308 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, .300 Winchester Magnum, .300 Remington Ultra Magnum. Remington produced the 300 Win Mag in 1999 and this is also the first cartridge of the 30-caliber FYI, Savage has the 110 FCP HS Precision in a .338 Lapua chambering with a MSRP of $1499.00 or probably somewhere around $1100-$1200 realistically. But now companies like Sierra make the 300 gr match kings BT that I now use which have very high ballistic coefficients. Even with a super rifle capable of .5MOA, you’re talking about a grouping of 8″ at 1600 yards. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and … Notes: Magazine works only with Wyatt's trigger guard assembly The difference is that the 300 win mag will do it with a 180 grn bullet, whereas the 338 lapua will do that with a 250 grain bullet. 1. When you look at the two cartridges together, you think to yourself, “well that’s not that far off. 300 Win Mag.300 winchester mag cartridges were first produced in 1963. Here is an article on the current record combat sniper kill. This topic comes up every so often and Brand692's post should be made a sticky. Violate this principle by, for example, chambering a lightweight, short action rifle for a powerful Magnum cartridge like the .300 WSM and the result will be a dramatic increase in kick. .338 Remington Ultra Magnum history and performance. But I am wanting a 338 for a dedicated long range rifle. 1. Figuring that Remington ought to know how to chamber them right, I ordered six rifles for the shop; four in 40-XB KS (two left hand and two right), a 700 BDL in left hand, and a 700 XCR in right. If you have a firearm related question, please register and post it on the forums. 6. My plan is for the 338 LM.

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