I was shooting 145g eldx at 2950fps and getting 1/2 … 270WSM 130g sst vs the 145 eldx ? SMK and ELDX have both been great. In the spring of 2016 I hunted black bear in Idaho’s Frank Church Wilderness, with my Steyr Scout rifle. 3. both bullets are boat tail. They have since come out with other, more stable powders. They are my new favorite bullet. 6.5mm .264 Diameter 143 Grain ELD-X 100 Count by Hornady Bullets and Ammunition Product Overview now offers the 6.5mm .264 Diameter 143 Grain ELD X in a convenient 100 count box. The nice part about being a pessimist is that you are constantly being either proven right or pleasantly surprised. I have shot 2 of them with SST in my 270. exit wounds on both. Anybody have any firsthand experience using Hornady's hunting bullets, in terms of group size out to 400 yards and killing performance? At this writing, Superformance loads do not feature ELD-X bullets. 2. 270WSM 130g sst vs the 145 eldx ? Used both in 243 and 308. I'm thinking about trying the 162gr ELD-X and Barnes 160gr TSX. Hornady Reloading Bullets ELD-X 7mm .284 175 Grain ELD-X [2841] View Options Hornady Reloading Bullets Etremely Low Drag 30 Caliber .308 195 Grain ELD-Match [30951] I have used SSTs out to 380 yds on whitetail with excellent results. The Winchester Power Point, Sierra Pro-Hunter and Speer Hot-Cor are classic soft point bullets. ELD-X vs SST vs ELD-M vs A-Max. "By the metrics of environmentalism, poverty vastly outperforms wealth." Have a question for our Technical Service Representatives, ask it below. But it really liked plain old 130gr partitions. RL22 is not very temp stable. So for hunting and varminting, the ELD-X is clearly the one to use – and it seems to be just as accurate as the match version. You're going after Dall Sheep = tough suckers with dense hair. ELD-X bullets are available in factory loaded Precision Hunter ammunition. If you hit them in the heart-lung's, any of these bullets will kill a Dall Sheep just fine. I’d … A 178 AMAX .30 cal from a 300 Win Mag underpenetrates at close range. That's a 30:06 caliber too. ELD-X bullets are designed with a thin-jacketed frontal area that expands at low velocity and a gradually thicker jacket and InterLock ring that keep the shank together to penetrate at high-velocity impacts. bullets over RL-22 powder. I've always been impressed with the 30 cal accubond, but the 7mm08, 280 s and 7 mags with accubonds were not above and beyond vs 162 sst, amax or eldx … I'm probably going to use Retumbo and see if I can launch them at 3200 fps. Havent cut one down the middle yet but from the picture on the box the sst looks more like an interlock with a polymer tip when deformed compared to the eldx. I’m really excited to start sighting in my new 300 win mag Christiensen Mesa this week but have been wondering what factory rounds to go with. Thus far I have heard of ELD-X, which sounds ideal for hunting, but per Hornady's website, it's not in any factory ammo. If you've got muzzle velocity, accurate BC's and sufficient accuracy out of your load, the only thing that it really comes down to is terminal performance, because the rest can be (relatively) predictably accounted for. I shoot a Sako Finnlight 85 in 7mm mag and it loves the Hornady SST 154gr at the range, but I haven't been impressed with the results in the field. Them and H4831 it will group moa or better as long as you let the light weight barrel cool. Quite a few deer, elk, and bear tags were punched I killed an elk with the eldX and plenty of deer with ttsx. Used both in 243 and 308. What's the difference between the Hornady SST and ELD-X (factory loads)? It dropped the deer and left a softball size hole at the impact. SST… Bullet wise, I've found Hornady 120gr GMX, 120/123/130/140 ELD Match, 140gr SP Interlock, 143gr ELD-X, 140gr SST, 140gr BTHP Match. Hornadys ELD-X bullet features a long, javelin-like body, a boattail base and the new Heat Shield Tip to improve long-range performance. I shoot a Sako Finnlight 85 in 7mm mag and it loves the Hornady SST 154gr at the range, but I haven't been impressed with the results in the field. CaptainMal. The Hornady ELD-X bullet is advertised as a technologically advanced, match accurate, all range hunting bullet. That scope/rifle combo had already produced sub-MOA groups with match ammo so I had a baseline of performance, and with Hornady's Precision Hunter the Bergara produced three-shot groups ranging from .71 to .79 inches at 100 yards. Depends on what you are hunting. No problems. The eldX is designed to run and open at slower speeds than barnes ttsx. [Last Edit: 7/30/2017 11:03:15 AM EST by CanNevrHaveEnuffGuns], [Last Edit: 8/11/2017 3:45:39 PM EST by pointman66], [Last Edit: 8/11/2017 3:10:36 PM EST by DevL], [Last Edit: 8/14/2017 6:23:42 PM EST by Rob01], [Last Edit: 8/14/2017 1:38:32 PM EST by sparkyD], https://www.hornady.com/support/ballistic-coefficient. I use SST's for whitetail deer but I wouldn't use GMX for them. I was shooting 145g eldx at 2950fps and getting 1/2 moa sized groups, … I use sst on deer and they seem to work better on deer than partions! So for hunting and varminting, the ELD-X is clearly the one to use – and it seems to be just as accurate as the match version. I do like the ELD-X though. However the 270 wsm came with load data for 130g sst's I had the 123gr SST not pass through an 8pt buck but the 150gr SST out of my  .308 zipped right through the 8pt buck the next year. ELD-X G1 BC (0.486). Plastic tipped, lead core bullets, such as the Nosler Ballistic Tip, Remington AccuTip, Swift Scirocco and Hornady SST have also proven very effective on Class 2 game. Introduced in 1998 in response to the popularity of the Nosler Ballistic Tip, it is a very low drag bullet with a high ballistic coefficient (BC). You can't even generalize by weight. The SST's are less expensive and easier to obtain. Hornady’s ELD-X bullet features a long, javelin-like body, a boattail base and the new Heat Shield Tip to improve long-range performance. The Hornady ® SST ® (Super Shock Tip) is designed to deliver tremendous shock on impact while expanding quickly and reliably, particularly at higher velocities. I do try to keep muzzle velocities at 2600+ fps on my .308's, that seems to keep them flying straight and true. Joined: Jan 27, 2011 … I'll use Nosler's data for the 110 grain Accubond as a start, but I think the ELD-X can take more powder because the ogive is skinnier allowing it to sit out farther. If as been suggested the ELD-X will ultimately replaced A-Max the cost of reloaded ammunition will have increased considerably. As is typical of Hornady, the bullet weights are odd numbers in the … Buying Hunting Land Central/South Alabama, Hunting club on 278 between Double Springs and Ham, Hunting Club: Looking For ‘21/‘22 Deer Season, Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1. I have no complaints. Buenas He comprado por probar una caja de Hornady SST 154 gr. 4. both bullets have polymer tips (the ELD-X uses acetelin resin, supposedly more tolerant to heat and less prone to heat damage/deformation). I don't care for Hornady bullets for big game hunting. I have been using the SST's for quite a few years now and have take a lot of deer and hundreds of pigs, nothing else I would rather use. I’m really excited to start sighting in my new 300 win mag Christiensen Mesa this week but have been wondering what factory rounds to go with. The closest match to my old faithful 140-grain A-Max is the 143-grain ELD-X. It's what I had. I drank the Koolaid and bought a 6.5 creedmoor tikka t3x. Mule Deer, John I didn't address your comment on neck thickness in my previous post. It busted up but so did my sst… Shoot something like a partition, accubond, or ttsx. I’ve seen the ELD-X in action on big game to 700 yards. For example, comparing ELD-X to SST: SST tips melt at high velocity (air friction). Thread starter dodgyknees; Start date Jul 16, 2018; dodgyknees Well-Known Member. I have no complaints. Both way outperform the SST by a mile. Ballistic Coefficient (G7) .315. Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Craiger12, Feb 12, 2011. It … To date I have 34 kills over 600 yards. You don't want any part of me right now, I'm full of bitterness, Scotch, and impure thoughts!!!! ELD ® Match (Extremely Low Drag Match) bullets are technologically advanced, enhanced accuracy target bullets featuring Heat Shield ® tips with the PERFECT MEPLAT (tip point) combined with numerous design features that deliver the highest-in-class ballistic coefficients, superior accuracy and extreme consistency from bullet to bullet, lot to lot. Thus far I have heard of ELD-X, which sounds ideal for hunting, but per Hornady's website, it's not in any factory ammo. Some thoughts on the comparison between the load I'm using (140 Partition, 47.5 gr Big Game, 2870 fps) and the load I'm considering in my new 7mm-08 (150 ELDX, 41 gr Varget, 2725 fps). The bullet itself looks totally different and by the info on the projectile box the sst=.460bc and eldx=.538bc.These are 270win data by the way. Hornady's Interbond vs. SST vs. Interlock. Flat shooting and deadly accurate, it's … Hands down ELDX and SST were best for this 3) Consistency when reloading. In my research, it appears there’s a healthy debate between … Sep 22, 2014 #9 Like them both but … I suppose if neither of these will work, I'll just save the brass. So the ELD-X which is being marketed as a long range hunting bullet looks better on paper and you would be able to use it for both hunting and target shooting. No elk with the bullet. ELD-X. I cannot say I like eld-x better than say accubond or sst or even my hunter elites with all my rifles but the 6.5cm shoots eld-x and has dropped the deer. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. A 178-grain Hornady ELD-X put this bull elk down at more than 300 yards. He shotvit in the heart and it didn't exit. Use the ELD-X. I can only speak of the SST bullets. Cabelas has them on sale for quite a discount on both versions and am thinking of picking up a few hundred. RL-22 and RL-25 have developed reputations for temperature sensitivity. View Product Quick View Quick View. It made a nice exit and the rib cage was damaged pretty bad. The SST in 7mm.08 gave me a bit of a problem with close range (50 yards and closer) with blowing up. looking at components the ELD-X and ELD-M are looking scarce or expensive. The Hornady ELD-X bullet is advertised as a technologically advanced, match accurate, all range hunting bullet. Superperformance punta de polímero rojo en 7mm RM y he de confesar que me ha decepcionado. Chicken Farmer by choice hunter of shade tree's and hiding spots by nature. But in general, I have found SST is usually slightly bested in accuracy by ELD-X, which is bested by ELD-M... generally. Either way the bullets do there job to bring big game down. Bottom line again, if the SST's have worked olak then any of Hornady's interlock type bullets or any of Sierra's Gameking or Prohunter bullets will work the same IMHO. The rounds that did the job were R1M1 ball. Does the eld-x hold together up close? The thick shank of the jacket and high InterLock ® ring keep the core and jacket together providing 50-60% weight retention. I've always been impressed with the 30 cal accubond, but the 7mm08, 280 s and 7 mags with accubonds were not above and beyond vs 162 sst, amax or eldx in my … Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. I shot them in my 270 Win. Sierra Tipped GameKing, Hornady Superformance 129-gr. Hornady's very successful SST (SST stands for "Super Shock Tip") is essentially a secant ogive Interlock bullet with a red polymer tip. I had a sst 139 grain bullet blow up on a doe with a shoulder shot with a 7mm08 superformance at 70 yards. EldX does not. With high velocity 0-400 yard impact, the bullet continually expands throughout its penetration path. Jul 16, 2018 #1 For the nth time I got into a debate about the differences between the aforementioned Hornady bullets recently, with shooters at the local NZDA. Because the ELD-X will expand at velocities as low as 1,600 fps, it is a great bullet for short-barrel rifles. I ask, because the SST is available in 150-gr. My gun doesn't like Winchester ammo. Sst= 130gr,cannelure,bright red polymer tip and different profile compared to the eldx=145gr,non cannelure,dark red tip and more sleek profile. Bullet wise, I've found Hornady 120gr GMX, 120/123/130/140 ELD Match, 140gr SP Interlock, 143gr ELD-X, 140gr SST… Even velocity makes a difference. $0.8965 Per Round. Spiker. Hornady 41 Remington Magnum 210 Grain XTP. If reloading is your game, ELD-X bullet offerings have expanded in 2017 to include: 270 Cal .277 145-gr 100/box $48.33; 7mm .284 162-gr 100/box $48.33 Is the standard powder being used H4350? Impact. Total Score: 84. I have used the 160gr accubond out of a 7mag and it does out perform the ballistic tip. Most hunters report favorable performances at around 1000 yards or more when paired with a quality rifle. Ballistic Coefficient (G1) .625. On the other hand partions work better on elk than sst! In my research, it appears there’s a healthy debate between the ELD-X the Trophy Bonded Tip. Above: (from l.) Browning 120-gr. Tipped GameKing, Swift High Grade 130-gr. 4. both bullets have polymer tips (the ELD-X uses acetelin resin, supposedly more tolerant to heat and less prone to heat damage/deformation). I shot a doe the next week at 60 yards through the lungs with the 7mm08 and it ran about 50 yards and had a bigger exit hole than what the 300 made. My own experience shooting a bear with an AMAX at short range ended poorly and follow up shots were required. ELD-X vs SST wont help you if all the rifle gives with them are 2' groups at 300 yards. I cannot say I like eld-x better than say accubond or sst or even my hunter elites with all my rifles but the 6.5cm shoots eld-x and has dropped the deer. In short, comparing all 3 bullets, think these are the real key differences: 1. I don't have any experience with the SST. Either way the bullets do there job to bring big game down. This Idaho black bear was taken at about 400 yards with a 19-inch barreled scout rifle. GMX, HSM Tipping Point 130-gr. Depends on what you are hunting. Hornady Superformance 30-06 SPRG 180 GR SST 20 ROUNDS. Each bullet in each caliber and weight has its own unique properties. 270WBY is wicked fast. I think from what I read that the GMX is more for thick skinned heavy boned animals where the bullet absolutely has to stay together. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. 270WSM 130g sst vs the 145 eldx ? I was shooting 145g eldx at 2950fps and getting 1/2 moa sized groups, more than acceptable imo. ELD-X. The perfect tip!. Nosler ballistic tips for blood and partitions for penetration. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. No complaints with the sst … BXS, Hornady Outfitter 120-gr. If as been suggested the ELD-X will ultimately replaced A-Max the cost of reloaded ammunition will have increased considerably. Copyright © 1996-2020 AR15.COM LLC. This year I ordered a couple of boxes of the eldx's for my 300 win mag in 200 grain and some 150's for my 7mm08. Check out Hodgdon's extreme powders or Reloder 23 instead of RL-22. I'm thinking about trying the 162gr ELD-X and Barnes 160gr TSX. I am starting to handload for a .270 Wby Mag using 140-150 gr. It occurred to be that the difference in accuracy between the 110gn ELD X and the 117gn SST may have something to do with the SST being flat base and the ELD X being a boat tail. My  .270 doesn't like solid copper bullets at all. I am looking at the SST, ELD-X, and Interbond. Silver $$ Contributor. View Product Quick View Quick View. On my AR in 6.5 Grendel I am running the 129 grain SST's with excellent results as well. exit wound must have been the base of the bullet. I shot a 8 at 200 yards and dropped it with the 300. just wanted to share water jug testing of the hornady Eldx and Barnes Lrx bullets … Hornady has introduced ELD-X bullets in its ammunition as Precision Hunter loads, with single-base, temperature-insensitive powders and velocities matching those of the company’s Custom line. The ELD-X mushrooms and expands perfectly upon impact. the first was right at 100 yards. SST�s are one of the worst hunting bullets IMO. Craiger12 Member. Thanks to its tip, a sophisticated jacket and Hornadys Interlock design,the ELD-X is a reliably expanding projectile intended for all-range hunting. And it was equally as devastating on the deer when I skinned it out. My Hornady ELD hand loads shoot around .7 MOA out of my 300 WM. Goal = Dall Sheep in Alaska. I'll stay with nosler. I shot one deer with 308 and 165 sst and had not blood trail at all, deer went about 20 yds into some plantation and briars. It busted up but so did my sst. $0.6877 Per Round. Considering the cost of ammo - a smart bunny would buy a chronograph - this removes the human factor. The Swift Scirocco would be my choice if it shot well in my rifle. No elk with the bullet. and has a slightly higher G1 BC (0.525) vs… Hi team, recently replaced my 270 win with a 270 wsm as I've always wanted 1. For example, comparing ELD-X to SST: 1. both bullets are copper jacket surrounding a lead core. 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